Les notes sont-elles fiables ? Si oui, lesquelles ?

Yves Martineau a écrit:

Jonathan Ménard a écrit:

Dis-moi Jonathan, si tu trouvais un système de notation que tu juges très fiable, dégusterais-tu seulement des vins bien notés ? J'espère que non, car ce serait un peu devenir non pas buveur d'étiquettes, mais buveur de notes !

Très bonne question.

Réponse: je crois que oui.

J'aime beaucoup cette honnêteté assumée. Je n'ai pas honte non plus de dire que je suis en partie un acheteur de notes.

Jonathan Ménard a écrit:[
Je pourrais peut-être partir un système de sceau d'approbation des systèmes de notation, hahaha

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daniel.seriot a écrit:
Yves, qu'entends -tu par groupe de pairs, c'est la première fois que j'entends ce terme ?

Tasting Notes & Ratings

When possible all of my tastings are done in peer-group, single-blind conditions (meaning that the same types of wines are tasted against each other and the producers’ names are not known). There are exceptions to this policy with respect to (1) all barrel tastings, (2) all specific appellation tastings where at least 25 of the best estates will not submit samples for group tastings and (3) for all wines under $25. The ratings reflect an independent, critical look at the wines. Neither price nor the reputation of the producer/grower affect the rating in any manner. I spend three months of every year tasting in vineyards. During the other nine months of the year, six and sometimes seven-day workweeks are devoted solely to tasting and writing. I do not participate in wine judgings or trade tastings for many reasons, but principal among these are the following: (1) I prefer to taste from an entire bottle of wine, (2) I find it essential to have properly sized and cleaned professional tasting glasses, (3) the temperature of the wine must be correct, and (4) I prefer to determine the time allocated to the number of wines to be critiqued.

The numeral rating given is a guide to what I think of the wine vis-à-vis its peer group. Certainly, wines rated above 85 are very good to excellent, and any wine rated 90 or above will be outstanding for its particular type. While some have suggested that scoring is not well suited to a beverage that has been romantically extolled for centuries, wine is no different from any consumer product. There are specific standards of quality that full-time wine professionals recognize, and there are benchmark wines against which others can be judged. I know of no one with three or four different glasses of wine in front of him or her, regardless of how good or bad the wines might be, who cannot say, "I prefer this one to that one." Scoring wines is simply taking a professional's opinion and applying some sort of numerical system to it on a consistent basis. Scoring permits rapid communication of information to expert and novice alike.

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Scores, however, do not reveal the important facts about a wine. The written commentary that accompanies the ratings is a better source of information regarding the wine's style and personality, its relative quality vis-à-vis its peers, and its value and aging potential than any score could ever indicate.

Jonathan Ménard a écrit:

Je pourrais peut-être partir un système de sceau d'approbation des systèmes de notation, hahaha :lol

Tu souffres beaucoup d'insécurité....relaxe un peu! Un 88 plutôt qu'un 90, why not, la différence tient à bien peu de chose. L'important, c'est que tu as aimé le vin. Pourquoi chercher à obtenir l'approbation du monde entier?

Michelle Champagne a écrit:

V. Rivest: "Mettre une note sur un vin est pour moi aussi aléatoire que de mettre une note sur une œuvre d'art."

Mettre une note sur un vin est pour moi aussi aléatoire que de mettre une note sur une oeuvre d'art.

Yves Martineau a écrit:

Cela sous-estime aussi l'intelligence du lecteur, qu'elle se rassure si elle croit une seconde que je vais suivre aveuglément ce qu'elle recommande et la laisser décider de ce que j'aime.